Al Quie

2002 to 2006 (12/28/07)

Paul Wellstone explains his opposition to the Iraq War Resolution in his first debate with Norm Coleman. Tim Pawlenty shares a defining moment from his childhood. Past governors discuss Pawlenty's potential and offer words of advice. Amy Klobuchar tells Mark Kennedy she wants a debate her mother would be proud of. And a campaigning Governor Pawlenty pledges his commitment to Minnesota.

1980 to 1986 (12/28/07)

Walter Mondale gives his first interview after losing the 1980 election. A young Paul Wellstone causes a stir at a farm-foreclosure protest. Almanac cameras capture a 1985 gathering of Minnesota's seven living former governors. And Rudy Perpich, the first governor to participate in an Almanac debate, squares off against Cal Ludeman.

Al Quie Looks Back at the Election of 1978 (12/21/07)

Mary Lahammer sat down recently with Governor Quie to talk about the election in which the DFL lost both U.S. Senate seats and the governorship.

Stalemate Solution

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 5:09 pm

Gov. Tim Pawlenty and Sen. Majority Leader Larry Pogemiller need to become best friends. At least that's what former Gov. Al Quie says and his former foe-turned-friend former Sen. Majority Leader Roger Moe agrees. I sat down for a deep and insightful hour with Gov. Quie. The 84-year-old had a remarkable idea: the stalemate at the state capitol would cease if two key players gave up their baggage and distrust and forged a friendship. I know that sounds impossible. Quie says it can be done. He did it. The Republican governor also said it's essentially Gov. Pawlenty's responsibility to "forgive and forget" — he said regaining trust is like "reconciliation." The deeply religious man often uses such spiritual references. He has committed much of his life to prison ministries while staying very active in political issues like early childhood education and impartiality in judges. I was stunned how compelling he was at 84. Quie said he has 84 years worth of experiences and mistakes to draw on. When I asked him if he's told Gov. Pawlenty his thoughts, he said yes. It's a fascinating interview. See some of it tonight on Almanac.

Gov. Tim Pawlenty and Sen. Majority Leader Larry Pogemiller need to become best friends. At least that's what former Gov. Al Quie says and his former foe-turned-friend former Sen. Majority Leader Roger Moe agrees. I sat down for a deep and insightful hour with Gov. Quie.

Quie's Idea (12/14/07)

Former Governor Al Quie says he knows a way to reduce partisanship at the State Capitol. Our Mary Lahammer explains.

8 Governors (09/20/07)

EIGHT living former governors. That's what Minnesota had back in 1986. And in May of that year all eight were in one place at one time at the St. Paul Pioneer Press. We had a camera there and recorded the historic event. Yeah, only seven of the governors are featured talking in this clip. C. Elmer Anderson was always a bit shy.

Base Instincts

Monday, April 30, 2007 - 8:37 am

In 1978, Minnesota foreshadowed the coming Reagan Revolution — that two-plus decade of political reaction at home and unilateral military adventurism abroad — with the election of old-time conservative Al Quie as Governor and right-of-center Rudy Boschwitz to U.S. Senate.

Twenty-years later, it seemed that Minnesota might again be foreshadowing the next great realignment of American politics with Jesse Ventura's upset victory in the 1998 gubernatorial race. For awhile, some political observers wondered whether third-party insurgencies — which got off with a bang with Ross Perot's 1992 Presidential Bid — might not end up dismantling the hidebound two-party system. At a minimum, it seemed possible that one of the two main parties might go the way of the Whig Party in the 19th century, eclipsed by some 21st-century version of the new Republican Party of the 1850s.

None of this, of course, came to pass; in retrospect, though Ralph Nader did mount a spirited challenge in 2000, it's easy to see that the forces that contributed to Perot's success in 1992, most notably a deep recession, were no longer operative during the dot.com speculative boom of the late 90s. By then a large percentage of us, sleepily unaware of the aims of some ragtag bunch of fanatics calling themselves Al-Qaeda, had deluded ourselves into thinking that we were gonna ride our Enron/WorldCom/Tyco-heavy stock portfolios right to the top of Big Rock Candy Mountain. Hard as it is to recall from the vantage point of 2007, in 2000 it didn't seem to make a dime's worth of difference (to quote an earlier third-party insurgent) whether George W. Bush or Al Gore were elected President.

But even as Minnesota has at moments seemed to be a political bellweather rather than backwater, the state has, alas, not proven entirely immune to pernicious developments on the national scene. For a time during the Ventura Administration, it seemed that we might take a pass on the bitter, scorched-earth partisanship that gripped Washington and was quickly infecting the states as well. For all his inability to exert consistent and effective leadership once in office, Ventura made a genuine effort to appoint the best and the brightest, regardless of party affiliation, to top administrative posts as well as to the state bench. And if nothing else, his victory in 1998 served to unite the DFL and Republican Party in a common goal of preventing him and the Independence Party from achieving a permanent foothold in the state. The motive wasn't pretty, but at least it generated a few years of bi-partisanship!

Which brings us to today, on the verge of not one, but three threatened vetoes of DFL-backed legislation in only one session: the higher education bill; the income tax bill; and now, a bill that has just passed the Senate and will be taken up (and likely approved on a straight party-line vote) by the House allowing the University of Minnesota to receive state money for stem cell research. In each case, one or both parties to these transactions — Gov. Pawlenty on one hand, DFL legislators on the other — is acting on that current bane of contemporary American politics: appealing to the base, regardless of the harm such narrow partisan behavior might cause society. The pending impasse is the dark triumph of politics according to Karl Rove, a man whose last name, incidentally, sounds like "rogue" spoken by someone with a mouth full of Jack Abramoff's dirty lucre.

As I've said, neither party is blameless. While laudable in its objectives, the Dream Act — that portion of the higher ed bill that would extend in-state tuition and other benefits to illegal immigrants — seems more like a needless tossing down of the gauntlet (and an appeal to that portion of the DFL base for whom immigrant rights trump all) than an attempt to pass legislation. But again, the lion's share of guilt lies with Pawlenty. There is nothing in the income tax bill, which would raise state taxes on a grand total of 92,000 of Minnesota's wealthiest citizens, then use the added revenue to offer desperately needed property tax relief to middle class families scrambling to hold on to their homes, that makes it a worthy target for a veto. That is, nothing other than the Governor's opportunistic "no new taxes" pledge made as part of his deal-with-the-devil to win the 2002 endorsement. Just how many families are going to have to go bankrupt before Mr. Pawlenty wrests his soul back from the clutches of the Minnesota Taxpayers League?

And as for the stem cell legislation, well, don't get me started. The University of Minnesota is conducting some of the most innovative stem cell research in the world right now. While it is true, as Pawlenty says, nothing in current law prevents the University from conducting stem cell research, or seeking funding for same from private sources, all I can say is that Tim Pawlenty is not a stupid man, and he knows as well as I do that state funding acts as seed money and multiplier, attracting several dollars of private funding for every dollar of public money.

Even more important, it will add to the momentum across the country to override the life-negating "pro-life" anti-stem cell research position taken by the Bush Administration. As a member of a family with a history of diabetes, cardiovascular disease, and other less-common afflictions for which stem cell research holds out at least the possibility of a cure, this is one veto threat I take very personally. Here, appealing to the base is, quite, literally, trading the "sanctity" of embryos — almost all destined to be destroyed in the normal course of things — for the lives and well-being of "post-born" Minnesotans. Partisanship's one thing, Tim. But now you're talking about my kith and kin — and the kith and kin of a lot of other residents of this state — being offered up on the altar of your ambitions to serve as running mate for John McCain's already-doomed 2008 Presidential campaign.

For once, sir, do the right thing — remind the base that you're the Governor of all Minnesotans and sign at least the stem cell bill when it lands on your desk.

In 1978, Minnesota foreshadowed the coming Reagan Revolution — that two-plus decade of political reaction at home and unilateral military adventurism abroad — with the election of old-time conservative Al Quie as Governor and right-of-center Rudy Boschwitz to U.S. Senate.

The Veto Will Make Things Moderate

Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 8:31 am

There are many nervous liberals ready to cry foul over Governor Pawlenty either threatening or actually issuing vetoes this year. Let's look at the facts: DFLers often give credit to former Governor Arne Carlson as being moderate and working to move the state along smoothly. What they will NOT say is that he vetoed 179 bills or items in his 8 years in office. The lovable and venerable Al Quie vetoed 31 bills during his 4 years.

At the same time, Governor Pawlenty has so far vetoed only 16 bills after over 4 years in office. Granted, House Republicans kept many bad bills from reaching his desk in the first place. However, Democrats said little when Governor Carlson vetoed over 30 bills in my first two years in the legislature. They understood the Governor had to bring the discussion back to the middle on regulations, spending and taxes.

Governor Carlson is looked upon by many in the state with bringing sound fiscal management back to the state through the use of his veto, especially in his first term. Not one was over-ridden and I think many of our liberal friends who now laude Governor Carlson as a "doer" and as someone who worked to move the state forward vetoed the K-12 bill my first term for him to get expanded deductions and credits for parents of school kids. Governor Carlson understood the veto as a tool to bring moderation and sound management to the legislature.

Our caucus and the public at that time realized the management Governor Carlson brought to the state. In fact, if I remember correctly, when he issued vetoes, his popularity went up in the state. While legislators may get caught up in appealing to special interest groups, for pork projects and lose sight of the forest through the trees, the Governors bring management aspects and statewide perspectives to the process.

The people I talk with at my town meetings and around the state are saying "thank goodness for Governor Pawlenty" in bringing moderate balance to a left-wing legislature obsessed with taxing, spending and regulating. I think if you tracked down Arne Carlson today, he would agree that the discussion needs to be brought back to sound management, reducing long-term obligations on spending (or "tails") and a need to hold the line on taxes and job killing regulations.

Below is a chart to show that Governor Pawlenty has actually not vetoed as much as many other Governors.

Governor Year/Session


Vetoes


Tim Pawlenty 2006
2
 
  2005 - Special Session 1 
  2005 5
 
  2004 5 
  2003 3 
   Total Vetoes
16
    
Jesse Ventura 2002 9 
  2001 - Special Session 6
 
  2001
10 
  2000 11
 
  1999 18 
   Total Vetoes 54
    
Arne H Carlson
1998 15 
  1997 19 
  1996 26 
  1995
20
 
  1994
25 
  1993 - Special Session
1  
 1993 29
 
 1992
16
 
 1991 28
 
   Total Vetoes 179
    
Rudy Perpich
1990
3
 
  1989 - Special Session
0
 
  1989
4
 
  1988
3
 
  1987 - Special Session
0
 
  1987
1
 
  1986 - Special Session 0
 
  1986
1
 
  1985 - Special Session 0
 
  1985
1
 
 1984
5 
 19832
 
 19780
 
 1977
0
 
  Total Vetoes
20
    
Albert H Quie
1982 - Special Session 3
0 
 1982 - Special Session 2
0 
 1982 - Special Session 1
0
 
 1982
10
 
 1981 - Special Session 3
1
 
 1981 - Special Session 2
0
 
 1981 - Special Session 1
0
 
 1981
7
 
 19808
 
 1979 - Special Session0
 
 1979
5
 
  Total Vetoes31
    
There are many nervous liberals ready to cry foul over Governor Pawlenty either threatening or actually issuing vetoes this year. Let's look at the facts: DFLers often give credit to former Governor Arne Carlson as being moderate and working to move the state along smoothly.
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